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Three Generals Weigh Boots on Ground in Iran

Lt Gen PR Shankar, Lt Gen Dushyant Singh, Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan (all retired, Indian Army), retired Indian Army generals, hosted by Sree Iyer. Strategic Frontlines, #ThreeGoodGenerals, March 27, 2026.

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#ThreeGoodGenerals is a nightly panel on the PGurus / Strategic Frontlines channel, hosted by Sree Iyer, with three retired Indian Army generals: Lt. Gen. P.R. Shankar, Lt. Gen. Dushyant Singh (lieutenant general is a three-star rank), and Maj. Gen. Rajiv Narayanan. On day 27 of the war they are outside observers, not advocates for either side, and they treat American ground troops in Iran as the next step, not a question. Gen. Narayanan opens (about 1 minute in) by saying the United States is "not being left with very many options other than putting boots on ground," and walks through maps of Kharg Island, Qeshm Island, and the four small islands in the shipping lanes (Siri, Farur, Abu Musa, and Lesser Tunb).

Gen. Shankar then takes stock of the "boots on ground" already on the way (about 25–28 minutes in): the USS Tripoli with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, about 2,500 Marines; the Boxer Amphibious Ready Group (Navy ships carrying a second Marine unit); and the 82nd Airborne Division, the Army's rapid-response paratroopers, with about 1,000 reportedly already in the Middle East and the rest expected by mid-to-late April. He describes a three-stage plan (land on the coast across the strait, then seize islands, then the far shore on Iran's side) and how it would unfold (about 31 minutes in):

"They're gonna hammer this into submission ... And then they'll put boots on ground."

Gen. Singh notes (about 13 minutes in) a March 19 poll in which 55 to 74% of Americans opposed boots on the ground; the panel still discusses when, not whether. Late in the show (about 82 minutes in) the host names the two war aims: control of the Strait of Hormuz and seizing the enriched uranium, "60% uranium conclusively, take it physically out." And a general sums up the logic (about 94 minutes in): "The regime change didn't happen. Then comes that you need to get your boots on ground. You need to pound." Seen from outside America, the buildup of Marines and paratroopers for landings on Iranian territory is plain to read.

Where this fits: this clip is one of the TV clips calling for American boots on the ground in Iran. For the full story, what the public was told next to what was happening, see American Soldiers on the Ground in Iran — Videos.

Transcript​

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Now, it's car. Welcome to Piguru's strategic front lines and gunner shot, wherever you are watching, a small request to all of you to please like this video and also subscribe to the channels. Let's welcome the 3 good generals today. We are in full strength.

General Ravishankar, General Dushin Singh, and General Rajeev Narayanan, Namaskar, and welcome to Peel Guru's channel, sir. Thanks a lot. Nice. So today we have rejected the batting order and we're going to start with Major General Rajiv Naranan.

He has a very compelling deck to share with us over to you, sir. Yeah. So for us to understand, since we are looking at US not being left with very many options other than putting boots on ground. So let us see the terrain and other things and understand the challenge that the US has to face.

One is not saying that human US will not go. It is just to show the challenges that the US is likely to face. So can we put on the deck, please? So that is what I'm saying.

See, US today, ultimately, has to dominate and open the straits of horror. So I'm just looking at what it could do. Now this spreads from Khadug Island to the west to the Keshum Islands to the east. So let us look at the terrain and understand.

Now, this is the 3D topographic and also the bathy metric. That means where the water is dark. That is where you will get the depth for the large tax. Anywhere else, the smaller boats ships can go.

The darker places, water where it is dark and as it goes becoming more and more dark blue, you get your depth. So normally about 35 odd meters depth, 40 meters depth is this very large container ships. The crude carriers, the gas tankers. They need this.

Just look across the terrain of Iran. You see these mountain range, that is the Zagros mountain range, and then further towards the Hormos Island, you start getting the Hormos range, which is Petering down. This gives a very good dominating height for the Iranians. If you look at the Omani Peninsula also, it has a dominating ridgeline.

If you look at the umani, that peninsula also, it is not a plain area. What normally in a normal map you feel it's a plain area, this 3D map, it gives you the indication of what it is. Rest of the area. The UAE and Qatar and all, those are plain.

No, these are essentially the shipping routes that you are seeing. So We'll come to the Khadug Island, which is further west, but there are these group of 4 islands out here. Okay. Uh, The Siri, the Farooq, the Abu Musa and the lower tomb.

Okay, the lower tomb, lower, uh, tumbi is here. Farur is here. Siri is here. Next to it is Abu Musa.

Now, these, of course, some of these are contested between UE and uh, Apna, Iran, but currently it is with Iran. And if you see these parallel lines that you see, that is the shipping channel within the person gulf for the large ships. They are going through the territorial waters. So these islands now gain prominence.

Then on the other side, you have these straits, but what has not been shown here is, uh, when you are going from the uh, Upper Tung Island, then you can go between Kesham and Larak. That is the approach to Bandara Basols. And the outlet from Bandar Abbas then comes between Hormus and Larak and comes here. I'll show you the current.

Can we go to the next slide, please? Yeah. Sorry. So now you see the red shipping lines that is going.

Currently, Iran is permitting the ships that is permitting it to go. They are going through. This channel. through this channel.

Okay, so, you have the Kesham Island, the Ladak Island, the hormones here, and you have these 4 islands, and Kadak Island is to the west. Let us see the Kadg Island first. The westernmost here, if you look at the Persian Gulf, this red roundel is the Khad guide. It is barely 24 kilometers from the coastline of Iran.

From the Straits of Hormuz, it is 660 kilometers. And if you take it from the Persian Gulf, it is 1000 kilometers in depth. From the Gulf of Omar. From the nearest land on the other side closest is Kuwait.

230 kilometers from it. Size is not very big, 8 kilometers long and about 5 kilometers wide. This used to be their main terminal. It got damaged.

They had earlier from June itself, started making a pipeline and taking it much further to the east of Bandar Abbas. There is a Bandare dusk. But that doesn't have that much of capacity. In any case, not much of their oil is going out now.

Now you look at Kesham Island. Now, this is the one which dominates the entry into Bandar Abbas. To its east immediately is the Larak Island, and on top where Bandarabbas is written, that island is the Hormuz, which gives the name Straits of form. Kesham Island is 135 kilometers long.

And about, At its closest is about 2 kilometers from the straits, but otherwise on an average about 10, 12 kilometers from the coast of Iran. And it dominates the shipping lanes, which enters into Bandarabbas and goes out from Bandarabbas. And when you look at if you want to dominate. Apart, if you take just those 4 islands, you're not dominating the strait so foremost, you got to fight for it.

If you have to fight for it, You have to cater for all this. That's my understanding. The heights also you need to secure. So, my understanding is if, Those islands which are there, Farur Siri, the Abu Musa and lower tongue, small upper tongue is also very, very small.

These are very small islands. With the kind of troops that the Americans have brought in, they can't take them. But then again, it will be about almost 180 to 200 kilometers of logistic ferry. The ships, I really don't know what is the status of the continental shelf there.

How the logistics will reach across through the water. Can the ship dock somewhere? Will the ports be in good? Because if the Americans are going there, let us be very clear they would have, they would found these islands to rubble.

That capacity they have. And then once you are there, then the sustenance becomes a problem. So you would have, when you take these islands, Let us look at these islands. Yeah.

When you take these 4 islands, you are only controlling the root of the Persian Gulf. You do not dominate the streets of horror. Iran still dominates with whatever fire park he has. This is my understanding that.

Well, America has to do something to make sure that He can get the streets of hormones open. Which island he goes to, what he does. My understanding is unless you dominate those heights also, big islands. Very tough, Thug Island, tough.

These 4 islands highly doable. But will that dominate? Yes, the other shipping lanes, you'll be able to dominate because, Like I'd given this area, these are the islands here. This area you will dominate, but the streets are here.

Almost about 100, 100 plus kilometers further towards the east. How do you dominate that? Can you force it to be open? My understanding?

I have given that it's a bit difficult, unless he takes these areas? Is he interested in taking these areas? He could. It might take a long time.

Might take a very long time. If the pounding on Iran goes more. Will somebody else from the hardline uh, try to do a deal with the Americans? and break It's a question of moral.

And my understanding is it's a question of who blinks first. So it's a tough call, but America has no choice they have to do something. So I leave it here. Thank you so much, General Rajeev.

I have one question on the maps that you showed. Kesham Island. I think it was one of those islands where the desalination plant was taken out by the Americans. No, it were damaged.

Was damaged. Okay. That was initially, that was damaged, and that is why immediately the Iranians damaged the Baharini ones. Yes, yes, yes.

As the threat in this. didn't touch it. After that, nobody has touched. See, only for Kashm Island, they need that desalination plant.

For main cost, main Iran, they don't need desalination. They don't serve what, though they have had successive years of drought, but still they don't depend on desalination plant. Unlike rest of the southern states of the Persian. Correct, correct, correct, correct.

That's true. That's true. General Dushan, sir, your thoughts on this original initial thoughts on this, and then we'll go on to General Shankar. Over to you, sir.

Uh, thank you, uh, Shree energy. First of all, I will not repeat whatever has been said about the terrain. I think that's well known to us as military personalities. So therefore, what I'm going to touch is the bigger issues which are going to be a factor in the A risks, as also in the application of military force.

So 1st let me just touch on the human factors which are which are currently prevailing in the United States of America. Now, there are a number of former centcom commanders who are actually not advising boots on ground, and some of them have actually said it is not advisable even for the, uh, the islands as well. So, uh, there seems to be some kind of a psychological opposition within the US for getting the boats on ground. And let me just quote these, uh, people who are there, John Joe's hotel.

He was a US Sencom commander, of course, an army guy. So I expect, having been there, I know the way army looks, US army looks at these boots on ground based on their experience, but then there are naval officers as well. Vice Admiral Kevin Donegal. He commanded from 2015 to 2017.

So not very old. So even he seems to be very, very opposed to even and the reason which he's giving is the fact that while 82 Airbon division, some portions, whether it is going to come in full or partial that we are not aware, sustainance will become a problem for them. So therefore, there is there is this issue that, okay, 10 to 15 days, they would be able to take care of the these islands and somehow create a counter threat to the Iranian Iranian shipping, anti-shipping effort, which they are actually applying in the state of Harmus. So therefore, even he's against it, then we have Deputy Voice Admiral Robert Boog, Howard, again, US US Navy.

He's also against it. And the other, I'm talking of your Petrias, et cetera. Those who have commanded here, they are also, While openly they have not said no, but they are apprehensive. That could be one of the reasons why the Congress is also not releasing those additional 200 $1000000000 request which the United States of America president has made.

So therefore, 1st is the the leadership dilemma which is going on within the US. The 2nd issue, which I would like to highlight about the risk, casualties. Now, you know, the US is very, very sensitive to casualties. As for the official reports, there are about 13 killed and 200 are injured.

Now this is official, I don't know how many actual would be there. So therefore, these casualties also create some kind of, you know, anti-war sentiment and I believe there is a pall which has been conducted very recently. I think it is dated 19th of March, which has 55 to 74% people, depending on various regions, opposing the boots and ground. It's specifically for the boots and ground survey which was carried out.

While it is not a direct factor in a military leadership, or in a political leadership, applying military, especially in the US, but it will somewhere create that, you know, mind mind game pressure on the US leadership. Then is the political and the strategic opposition which is likely to strain the alliance. If the war goes further beyond, let's say, 15 odd days, then I think, and there are some reports that the Gulf states are advising caution. Now, if that is the case, again, the boots on ground becomes a slightly difficult option to take.

Next thing which I don't want to cover much in detail is oil which has been discussed by you and Jal Shankar in grade length as to what kind of global impact the oil crisis is creating for oil and gas crisis is creating for the entire world. Now, what are the options? Like most of the options in passing have been discussed by general Rajib. I would, I, in fact, uh, kind of, uh, thought of an option because US will have to do something to assure the Gulf states that look, they are the, they are the security guarantor, net security providers of this region.

So what I thought of, maybe this is what is also going on in there in their strategic war rooms, et cetera. Firstly, complete air dominance and especially counter drone actions because it's the drones which is actually making them apprehensive. So they will have to build up the counter drone capability to an extent where, for example, you know, the drones of America, they actually reversed, engineered the side, the 136 to make it into a drone called Ducas. So that is, I think that is a neglect on the part of the United States and the other Western powers to go in for smaller drones as the Ukrainians have done it.

So, complete air dominance with counter drone actions in a layered defensive manner so that the state of Armos is absolutely free of any interference, whether missile or drones, then only, we can think of a operation to launch the capture of the 4 islands which, uh, Journal Raji was talking about, occupying the smaller islands, plus shore. Defense dominance. How do you do the shore defense dominance? It is here that the smaller vectors will come into play, whether it is artillery, whether it is the short range missiles, whether it is the rockets which are there with the Western forces and they are in plenty.

So along with a shore dominance of a specific area, you can't dominate the entire 1500 kilometer of the, the, if you take, if you take the length of straight of armor, the way it is curving, et cetera. So you will have to select this area, the choke point, which is roughly about 10 kilometers in width, and 2 kilometers is the actual sea lane, which, you know, Raji was trying to show on the map. So this stretch has to be like a Bridget. Now, how long this bridgehead will be effective is the major concern which the United States people are discussing before they undertake any boots on the ground?

And the 3rd part of the strategy or option which I feel from my side, they may be considering it pegging away at the leadership. It's a it's a long grind. I mean, keep knocking off their leadership. Ultimately, you will find that somewhere somebody will collapse or somewhere the leadership will collapse or someone from inside may rise up.

And also initiate some kind of peripheral people's demonstration. And by that peripheral, I mean, the curth on one side, the Azer is on the other, Azer is, to me, look, the more likely people who might stand up against the regime and also the Baluchis. Now, if they try to create this kind of a people's movement through their agents, et cetera, along with this taking away of the leadership and somebody else, there are a few names which are doing the round, of course, publicly, they have said no, they are not, they're not at all. I mean, they consider it as a joke that the, it's a, it's a kind of a information war or narrative war which the Americans are trying to play.

So, these 3 pillars plus SF on standby, for any special operations within inland, and it could be, let's say, uh, uh, destruction of a, I mean, they say that is fun still has 60%, uh, enriched uranium, if they are likely to get an intelligence that that might get used, or uh, some military key military uh, installation, uh, methile site, et cetera, which is likely to launch a, uh, which might, which might create a greater damage to either West Asia, or they have demonstrated even London. I mean, they are now within a reach to reach London. So London attack would be a kind of a red line, of course. But then it's an option open to the Iranians and Iranians when pushed to cornered might take these kind of options.

So special forces, whether they are of 82 brigade or the seals, et cetera, could then undertake operations to neutralize these small little bubbles which might come up inland and get out of there. And there won't be a, there won't be a plan to keep them there. They would have to extricate themselves as they have done in the past in number of occasions. And I believe Israel has practiced a raid on is fun, uh, entry and exit both combined.

So these are the possible options which I feel the US might undertake to further pressurize the Iranian leadership into bending for an agreement. So all in all, uh, I will stop here and just to say that US has some options, it needs to overcome the challenges, which will be, which will be posed by the shore-based uh, uh, batteries, shore-based uh, uh, fast attack aircrafts, which will go and try to interfere into the shipping, which might take place along this uh, particular route and along the entire route from Kurgh Island, let's say, to Bandaral Abbas. This is the area which will be continuously, continuously interfered to, and the and the problem of sustenance. They they can be sustained for about 15 to 20 days, but will will it go longer than that?

Will they be able to do it is being actually contested by a lot of military people within the United States of America. So with that, I'll stop here and wait for the 2nd round. Thank you so much, sir. Jal Shankar.

So you are muted, sir. Shanka, you are muted. Yeah. Can you hear me now?

Yes, yes. Okay, thank you. Oh, well, I go with what general Rajeev Narayanan and General Dushan think I've said 100%, 1st and foremost. But let's look at a little bit of politics and then we'll get into the ground.

Look, politically, the strait of hormones is the center of gravity of everything. America has lost its original name, shame, and all that has gone objective, regime change. A, it was subkatamogya. If the Strait of Hormones remains in Iranian hands, America has lost the battle conclusively.

It is not only America, which has lost the battle, the whole world has lost the battle. Because for the 1st time, this straight will go into the hands of Iran. Conclusively, which so far has been a free passage, which means... That no one will accept.

Right? No one will accept Iran to do this, which has not been done hitherto for. So that's the 1st thing. On the other hand, for Iran, it's a matter of life and death.

Right. Because if, uh, you know, they let go, they're gone. End of story of Iran. So the whole thing goes on to that straight up foremost.

Sooner or later everyone will start realizing it. What are the options with straight of foremost, right? I mean, let's look at it. One is what General Rajiv said.

Take the entire rate of hormones, including the Zagros Mountains, including the mountains, not the just and all that. That needs a lot of force. Does America have that force? So far, no.

They might have it in any other place, not here. Will, can they bring that first? They can, but it's a matter of time and space. And if not, get hold of, Today at this point of time, US and Israel have no control over the Strait of Foremost.

Can you get into a state where you start controlling the partial control of the strait of almost? So that there is leverage for you to talk. The moment you have create leverage, then the Iranians have no choice but to talk. So is that threat there?

You had to post that threat back to, uh, you know, Iran. The moment you do that, things will happen. Now there are 2 ways of doing that. Threat.

I'm not talking of capture. I'll come to that 2 ways of this threat. The moment the, You know, the Musundam Peninsula, which General Rajiv Naran ensured, you know, which is, okay, can you show this slide, if you don't mind? Yeah, just can you show?

Yeah, okay, fine. That's also fine. No, the 1st slide a few show, which shows the... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The 1st ride, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a nice one actually. Yeah, look, that Oman where it is written, if you start controlling that.

that's that's not occupied nothing. You have to go and occupy that. It's within American forces capability. The 1st stage of control over or, you know, getting equivalent control leverage is to occupy that belt and on the west of that is Russell Kaima, which is a port.

Okay, that in the 2nd stage is you capture the, uh, you know, islands and the 3rd stage is the far shore. If you get to the islands, you get the home bank and you get the islands, even one or 2 islands, there are about 5 islands which you need to get hold of, even 2 islands. You start controlling or getting equal control on the straight of foremost. The moment you do that, it's a contested control.

Today it's a free control for Iraq. So the moment you start doing contested control of this, then you are in the business. Okay. So now this is something which we have to understand.

You have 3 stages where America will land up, we'll see. I mean, I'm not going to today say this is what America will do. Americans can choose what to do any of these three, but these are the 3 options to get hold of straight of Ormos. They know the choice at this point of time.

Because for Iran, this is life and death. Okay, now let's see something else. Let's see, we've said all this, he should do that on that boots on ground. Where are the boots on ground?

Can I have my slide please? We'll have to take into account when this is possible, how much boots are there, everything. See, these are the boots on ground. Today, morning also in my briefing, I had said this.

First is USS Tripoli, and the 31st Marine Expeditionary Force. It transited the it transited the Malacca straits about 4 or 5 days back, went to Diego Garcia, and now it's on end route to Jibuti or in this area. Likely to be into this area in late March or early April. It has got about 2500 Marines.

Effectively, like we, you know, like General Naran said in the last week, this thing, there's about 3 companies worth who can do it. One task force. That's it. One task force, what can they do?

Maybe one island. Not more. Okay, then there's this boxer amphibious ready group. It has departed San Diego on 1920th March.

Where is San Diego, west coast of USA? By the time it comes into this combat zone, it is mid mid-April. And that's a smaller group. I suppose there would be, okay, granted they have 3 companies there.

You're looking at 6 companies. 6 companies is maybe 2 battalions worth. That, how it is, or 2 targets, max. Small.

Or one reasonable target. Okay, or one target at one time type. I mean, that's a people will understand. Then you have the 82nd airborne division, which is the immediate response force.

I believe it about 1000 people have landed up in the Middle East. One says they have landed up that some say they have to set force. Yeah, whatever it is. And the balance of the division by the time the division comes in, it'll be mid to late April.

Okay? mid to late April. And that will have about anything between 13,000 to 18,000 people or maybe more or less. It depends on what is the composition of that 1st and that composition of the 1st will depend on what their targets are.

And then they might get up another reserve force, which will also come in and that will also they will attempt to get it in the around April or so. So if this is the way the force is going to build, boots are on ground are not going to come tomorrow. There is still 45 days away before in a great action. Unless there's a commando action special forces action and all that that we are not discussing.

We are talking boots on ground approach, where you have to get hold of your home bank, then get hold of, you know, these islands in the center. And then the 3rd one is this. With this force, which is available. With the force, which is available, to be balanced.

You know, any, I mean, chap will say, I want balance in battle. If I have to have balance, I'll not go beyond the island. With this 1st the islands are the capacity. That's it.

They are an odd, you know, great, the other side or go occupy, do something, come back, that's feasible anytime. Right. So this is the capability of the Americans and that capability is not going to manifest before April 15. That's the rough thing.

It could happen a few days here and there. No, April 15 takes you over under 20 days. Now, what will be the state of Iranian differences by then? Already for the past 4 days or 5 days, in fact, it started a week back.

That's why every day in the morning, whenever Brad Cooper, Admiral Brad Cooper gives us, um, you know, update, I show it to you. And today he was covering a lot about what he would do along the coast. Okay. So they are now started taking out coastal differences of Iran.

And that's going to be a very heavy price, which Iran is going to pay. Does Iran have the capability to withstand all this for the next 20 days? I am very sure US has the capability. Okay, I have no doubt about it.

I mean, I leave the politics of 200000000000 and all that out of the equation at this point of time. They had the US has the capability to sustain this for the next 20, 30 days. Even if they had hammer all these people and took submission, because they're not going to use tomahawks and all that costly equipment. I said this earlier.

They're going to use old ammunition, dumb ammunition. They have complete freedom of the sky. They're gonna hammer this into submission very easily. I won't say very easily sustained manner in a pre-planned manner.

And then they'll put boots on ground. They're not going to they're not fools that they'll put boots on ground when Iranians can fire. They will collect intelligence. There's going to be heavy int collection for the next 15, 20 days on this area.

When the 1st boot is put on the ground or in water, I'm sure Americans will know everything. And don't forget the Israelis. They still in action. The Israelis can do hell of a lot on the other side.

For all you know, Israelis might be preparing the ground for that. Today. I just, just before I got logged in, I came, I mean, I saw uh, news item where they've killed a naval commander of Iran already. I'm forgetting his name and all the defense of Straits of Hormones.

Straight off foremost. Usko Tokbia. Yeah, Chalega. They will undermine those defense.

Please. One way or the other, there'll be huge talk. Now, for all what Iran is coming out and saying we will not talk, we will not talk. We will not talk.

Remember. Mr. Trump has played a very smart card. I said this yesterday morning.

It's a very smart psychological move to say I'm talking to someone big and I've got a present from them. Okay. Now, every commander within Iran will be thinking, who's this bugger who's talking to Trump and who's given him the present and who's what's the present Trump has given him? And we know that this leadership is porous.

It's not new. The Israelis have exposed this leadership time in again. Okay, now it's a matter of putting all these things together and then putting, you know, getting across. Okay, now can I can I get this?

Yeah, can I get, no, leave that. Yeah, this guy, yes, fine. Okay. Can I get the map which I'm now putting up?

Yeah, this. You see, have a look at this. The same, something similar to what general, right, and put, but in a slightly different way. Okay, this is question.

I don't think getting hold of question is it's out of question with this force. But getting this Abu Musa, yeah, was fully in cards. Maybe two, 3 islands. These 2 islands, if you take, one is between the go channel and the return channel.

And same thing, and one, of course, channel is this Ladak. Right? It goes like this. What is the requirement to do?

It'll, it, it has this Strait of foremost, has to be in a contested zone. The moment it is in a contested zone, Iran starts losing. Today it is uncontested with Iran. Catch 2 of these islands.

you can sustain here. If Iranians can sustain here, so can, you know, US people. Right. And from here to here is not great distance.

This is Russell Kaima here. This halfway. Okay, and for that, you need to equip yourself. You can't say I'll get a destroyer and then get in here and replenish him.

It has to be small boat principle. Can they rustle up those small boats in this area? That's ingenuity, would be ingenuity on the part of, US. And then you need to patrol this area.

Marine patrols. Can they establish that marine patrol capability? They can do can they sneak in boats at night? If those fellows can do it, why can't US guys do it?

You don't need, you know, you have to think small. America, USA has to think asymmetric. You don't deal with, you know, asymmetry with symmetry. If you do the same thing which you have been doing the way everything, then you will fail.

You had to do things differently. And that is why time is of essence here. Iran, USA has to buy time to put all this capability into place. It might be a little more long.

It is not that you put boots on ground and then start losing like fools. A lot of news comments, a lot of commentary, a lot of, you know, experts are talking, oh, one boot goes, the other board goes and they'll be sucked in. If that is the approach, then I'm afraid America can kiss its backside goodbye. But if the approach is marginal, make this into a contested thing and the moment you make it contested, Iran's leverage on this on the strait of hormones is devalued.

And the moment that happens, Iran itself will be in a problem. And let's be clear. Iran doesn't have the capability to retake any island. Iran cannot, you know, get fire on these islands through missiles all the while.

They might not be that distinct. And these, they will do. Yeah, it'll be contested. There is going to be some body bags in this.

The questions are, of course, will America be prepared to accept a few body bags? Right? No pain, no gain. The notes as simple as that.

Okay. And even for Iran, it's a do and die situation. They're not going to let go easily, but they don't have any options left. And Iran doesn't have the wherewithal to sustain this kind of a thing beyond a point.

And of course, in this next one month, we are not looking at it immediately. We are looking at 3 weeks. In the next 3 weeks. You see that not only the degradation, each Iran will go through physically.

Also, the degradation which Israel will put in. Remember that. So all this is there. And then if you look beyond this, then there's a politics.

The international politics of this whole story, the oil politics, oil prices, whether Trump has got the legs to go through all this, whether he has political backing in this thing, already, as I understand, with Mr. Freire did in the morning, that even within the GOP, there are, you know, murmurs. And most importantly, the one thing which goes against USA. I mean, I'll be, that's the thing.

Yeah, you can take this slide away. The one thing which is goes against USA, today at this point, completely is there is no strategy with them. The strategy to achieve their political goals. I am not clear.

If, you know, the military strategy to achieve their goals is not clear. What is the strategy to open up the strait of foremost is not also clear. This is not something which I'm alone talking. I heard Jim Mattis speak on this.

And, uh, yeah, Jim Matters speak on this. And he said there's a complete nonsense. Hitting 10,000 aircraft today has got no value. 10,000 targets or 20,000 targets without a strategy has got no value.

And Jim Matters was renowned, you know, I mean, he was one of the CNCs of, uh, USA. or theater commanders, and later he was the either the Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State in the 1st Administ- Trump administration. And he was one of the well-known figures within USA. He's come out and said, look this is nonsense.

So the challenge with in front of the US military system is that can they break the monotony? If you heard Dan Kane today, right, Dan Raisin Kane, and if you heard Admiral Brad Cooper, they were monotonous, they were only giving figures of how many targets they were hitting, yea, well, like, what is the strategy they're following to get open the straight of foremost? There's no indication. Of course, I know that, you know, that strategy they can't put it out in public.

I also see that in their way they're going about doing their day-to-day business, there is some method in their madness. But we don't know whether this method in the madness that they've started today will culminate in a ground action. Or will the combination of this leverage, Iran to, you know, raise the white flag or come to the negotiating table or the internal politics of Iran, will it fracture before that and the thing starts? Don't count out the puckies.

There's tremendous pressure on Pakistan to open another front. Right? If that opens, then the Iranians have to rethink very big way. Yeah, you people might say, you know, Iran won't spare Pakistan, yay, oh, all that.

That's fine. America will support. Even Israel will support Pakistan if they start. The complete Saudis will start.

I saw two, 3 clips where a lot of Saudis are saying, look, we have a agreement with Pakistan. They have to come up. That's an agreement, right? So there is more to go in this game.

Boots on ground, not immediately, not before the next 20 days. If they do something before that. Well, we'll see what they do because I don't see anything logical coming out of it unless it's a raid or a Ricky in force or something like that. That's all I had to say, back to you, Sri LG.

Thank you so much, sir. General Dushan has a hard stop at 9 PM. General Raji, General Raji, if you don't mind, I let General Dushan have his last thoughts and then come to you, sir. Thank you so much.

General Dushant, over to you, sir. You're muted. Yeah, in fact, that is what I also told, right in the beginning in my opening remark, that as of today, if the US has to do something and the strategy which I told was that A, you have to have ensured that complete air dominance, especially the drone area, which to my mind, the central command commander seems to be doing it, you know, those hitting the targets or hitting the military targets, etc cetera. those have to be done.

The 2nd issue of which I wanted to re-emphasize and which went in the passing when I said the what is the strategy? Occupy these smaller islands. Don't go for the big ones. Occupy the smaller island and I have I had set 4 of them.

Out of this, you need not occupy all 4 together. Even too. Yeah, if you feel that the Abu Musa will be able to give you enough traction which is further to the west. I think that would be better because that is closer to the to the gulf also.

the Persian Gulf as well. Maintenance might be that much easier, slightly away from, away from Iranian mainland. So we'll have, they'll have to keep pegging at, uh, at the boots on ground option, just to put the pressure on the Iranian leadership, as well as the Iranian military defense forces, that look, partner, you are going to face music if you continue to extend this particular war beyond a particular date and time. The 2nd thing which I said was the show defense domination.

Now show defense domination is a must. And for that, even the smaller vectors, if deployed in the areas along the state of hormones, would be more effective than the larger vectors which are going to be coming from far away. And as far as intelligence goes, I think Israel does have a does have an edge in that and massive edge. In fact, there were some reports which said that the, the, most of the top leadership, many of them are actually bought.

So the point which he was trying to say, Jan Shankar, that they'll be guessing now, who's the guy who's the, who is the black, black sheep amongst the top is something which may be actually troubling the IRGC more, then uh, thinking about the Americans. The next issue which I set as part of a strategy, immediate strategy would be that begging at the leadership, military assets and SF on a standby. I didn't say that the SF will undertake an action. SF will be on a standby for a, for a critical situation which might develop internally.

And for that, I had alluded to Baluchi's being one of the major areas from where a people's movement can start taking place with an essay of action and a local leader emerging and similarly. you remember Syria? There were multiple actions which took place, finally, which led to Vasar al Asad leaving Syria. So you can have the Azeris, which are which are actually backed by the Turkish people.

So the Azeris can and they are about 17% in demographic. The areas from there could stand up in revolt. I'm not looking at an internal report, unlikely to take place. It is only the periference.

And the Kurds, of course, are waiting. They're waiting to grab a chance if they are given some amount of support along their route. They only need what, aerial support? They need some kind of missile support.

They need some kind of a drone support. So if this kind of a movement is created within Iran, I think Iran will succumb. And this is the strategy which I feel is the most doable in the next 15 to 20 days if they are able to get together their assets well in time. Uh, about the movement of the assets is concerned.

Of course. These are physical challenges. If you can't get from San Diego, people overnight, they will take and San Diego is on the other side of the of America, going through the Pacific, then coming to Atlantic, a whole lot of time is going to be wasted. There is another choke point called Panama Canal, which they may have to cross before, before coming.

No, they don't have. Yeah, they'll have to cross that. They have to. They have to.

They have to. They've crossed. They crossed the Panama. I said they've crossed the penal.

I'm just saying that distances are there, those are challenges. So overall, the strategy which looks more, more logical to me is a people-based, Aerial-based, and short boots on the grounds, looking at content, increasing the contest levels of Iran, so that Iran keeps getting that pressure. Now, how does Iran get over it is something which Iran will have to start using the other thing, you know? Use its proxies, whatever dumb they have now.

Most of them are actually badly beaten, but the healthies do have some capabilities. And also the Lebanese are showing some teeth. In fact, the Lebanon government has come out with some statements. But whatever be the case.

That is the leverage which Iran will have. Another thing we must not forget about Iran is that Iran has a deep toehold in Iraq. Nobody is talking about it. You know, Zarakavi, et cetera, who were created.

They were created by Iranians. And uh, Iraqi resistance force has come out with certain statements in Iran, in Iraq. So therefore these are the stray elements which Iran may try to activate them in order to leverage their position, delay the termination of the war further, and get a better deal out of the talks which are going on. The Pakistan option of Baluchis.

I had mentioned earlier It'll be clubbed with people. If Pakistan does something, it will be with Sastan Baluchistan. Those are the guys who will be moved, not the Pakistani Balujis. But the Baluchis, which are Bajar in Iran, which are Pro Pakistan.

So these are things which we need to take into account while stop here with the thing that there are a lot of games still left to be played by people. Thank you so much, sir. PowerPlay has started. General Raje, over to you, sir.

I have some questions for all of you, but 1st let you do one more round and then we'll go to my questions and then yours question. Over to you, sir. Two, 3 points. A, the date now given for Trump's China visit, could be an indicator that maybe at least about 2 or 3 weeks before that, the boot action may start.

That is one indicator I look at. The other part about Purd and Istanbul, which is that my input is very different. You see, most of the anti-regime people are from the cities and small towns. In the rural area, they still have some portion of uh support for the hardliners.

And they spend, the bombing has all been in the cities and towns. Most of the places the people have gone anti-the Americans and they have said that we will, while we are against this government, but we will fight the Americans, we will not permit the Americans to control us. We fight that. Deto and Sistan Baluchistan.

That has also happened, as far as the foods are concerned. We say once bitten twice, shy, they are twice bitten. They'd been promised Kurdistan once in Iraq and the 2nd time in Syria. The input has, they have bluntly refused.

They have told Americans one lack already. But they have said, 1st you have to declare Purdistan. And your support for Purdhistan. Now, one year is turkey because bulk of the declared the Kistan terrain is with Turkey.

So the only one left who can do something but who has not yet shown is inclination for it. Is otherwise. Because on the border area, there are 5 districts where bulk Azeris live. And that's where if you remember the previous government had the helicopter had crashed.

They are not sure. Yes. Pakistan. Can he do something where will he take his troops out from?

When every day is getting thrashed in Baluchistan and then. Saudi Arabia are more keen that he put their boots in Saudi Arabia to defend Saudi Arabia. Their ADS, some, Some of their FX teams have gone there. They have said, no, send more pilots to fly their own F6 teams.

I think what Saudi Arabia is asking and that is where they are coming under pressure. And I'm sure the hint is towards Galibath, the speaker, who is in Napir, Pakistan. But, The Iranians have, uh, Said no. To there, but I don't say it is no.

I would put it that Americans had given their 15 points. When you go to negotiate, everybody gives their excuse. So they have given their extreme part. So somewhere in between something will come out.

And I've always said, like there is pressure building up within the political hierarchy in US. We know that there are quite a lot of pressure which is coming up within the Iranian hierarchy. It's a question of who blinks first. And I think maybe at the current moment it is leaning towards the Iranians.

The kind of damage. See, 10,000 targets. Fine, he's not telling you. But if you look at the places with getting hit, you can arrive at what is the strategy you're doing.

Your targeting their infrastructure, your, it is precision targeting of their hierarchy. And all the coastal and wherever the uh, tunnels are there and the new, uh, uh, the missile uh, facilities, the uh, likely nuclear facilities or anything which is supporting that. So these targets are through that. So the larger strategy comes out when you look at what all has been hit.

And they're pounding, and they're pounding, they are getting a pounding. Yes. In one time I had mentioned in one of the chats that, It's not a question of who wins. It's a question of who gets thrashed, how much?

Ultimately, and Iranians are getting a pounding. They are the worst. Tremendous. And Israel is also getting a pounding.

The Gulf countries are also getting a part. So this is the 3 in the hierarchy and it. I think the Americans have a feeling that, Maybe before they put their boots on ground, the Iranians might blink. So I blink.

Yeah. Thank you so much, sir. General Shankar, your last thoughts, and then we'll go to Q and day, sir. Yeah, fine.

You look, I really don't have much to add. Okay. It's just a matter of who blinks first, but I leave something else. Okay, let's assume that America cannot take over straight of foremost after one month of solid, you know, bashing.

The bashing will continue. Okay. And they say, okay, you keep the straight of foremost. quitting this place and I'll go back and sit on my base and watch you.

What will happen in Iran? Look at it. Iran will be completely weakened by then. We are looking another 20 days of this, right?

The economy will be completely short. Right? You got to have a rest of people. At some point of time, every guy will start looking for his food.

China can't help them. Russia can't help them. So satellites would let, because they also care for a. Nothing goes in.

No food is going in. Then what happens to Iran? With the internal thing of Iran will collapse on its own, even if a government comes up that will collapse. So, look, look at it beyond this.

There will be effect on Iran. Let's not think that you know, Iran will succeed. And remember, by then if the brakes and fault lines are so much, and even if Iran is allowed to live on its own, the Israelis will kill it. After all, Israelis, I've got tremendous inroads into this thing.

So there might not be an uprising, but there will be no stable Iran. Okay, to that extent, there's no victory or loss in this whole story. Of course, the narratives will frame a victory or loss and all that, but that we'll see. So even boots on ground, we have time.

And a lot has to be done till we get to that boots on ground. And as time nears, actually when the boots will fall on ground, you'll get an idea as to what will be the outcomes, right? With this back to you, sir. Thank you so much, sir.

I was going to ask some questions to the panel before we go to the floor. There are a lot of questions. Let us take the, I think the 1st questions first. Yeah, mine can wait.

We keep talking and I'm sure. Okay, 1st one, Ravi, thank you so much for becoming a YouTube member. Next one, please. Thought provocator wants to know this question is to General Dushant, then General Rajiv and then General Shankar.

Do you think Trump failed in his 1st surrender attempt through Pakistan, if yes, why? That's all I'm going to ask you, sir. I, I would, uh, I don't think Trump could be taken so uh, lightly. Trump has a design.

He may look a little basserk, but ultimately he achieves his aim the way he wants to achieve it. He has done so in the past. I see a method in madness of his way and behavior. See, even the current war.

He has, at the right time, pulled back and has now started putting the pressure on Iran to surrender. Let's see if Iran surrenders or not, that's a secondary issue, but to me, it looks like, and Pakistan is a youth and throw. Kind of a thing for him. May I add some things?

Yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, yeah. What you have to remember is, uh, Yes, day before night. Modi and Trump had rung up RPM.

They had a long chat. Yes, another way, minister spoke to, had a long discussion with the ambassador of Iran in India. All 3 of them. JD ones, Witkov, Jared Kuch, they 1st came to India.

Had a discussion here, then they went to Pakistan. That means Pakistan is just being used as a room where the discussion is going to take place. They are not partly to the discussion. They're not mediating.

They're not mediating. They're not immediate. But anyway, can I add, what can I? We have taken whatever points Trump has given, given it there.

They have given those 5 points given it here. That's it. One more point I want to add. No, no.

To what you said, Jared Krishna, Steve Witcoff and JD ones. There's another important guy who was yesterday, day before yesterday in India, at the same time, Elfred's called B. Bridge called me, right? He was, he's the ideologue and he came, he came before this.

Before then, he came here to India. Before them, he came here and he spoke to who were providing them the window of exchanging views. And Pakistan is just the table where across which they are sitting in top. Yeah, everyone's going to go and piddle out there and come back.

That's about all. That's how it is. Pakistan is the room. Room.

Why, why, why, freshening kill your room ever? To give an example. Like, it is being used. In India on 15th, which the clause was conducting.

It was an Ambedkar International Institute. So who conducted it? Clause. America International Institute is not going to say, I did that.

No, that's the place. Absolutely. absolutely. So it's basic, they're not part of the mediation at all.

And also don't forget, I mean, all of you don't forget that it was India, which has which gave a platform to USA, Iran, Iran, and Israel, during the India Today conclave, and the Rice United dialogues. And what was on at that time? Yeah, war was one. Okay.

Already? I mean, I'm sure, I mean, let me put it also this way. We, uh, I asked spoke to Sandeep Punitan because he was part of the India today conclave he was conducting. He said, sir, we program them in different time slots.

They didn't meet each other. But that doesn't matter. On an international platform. They're speaking.

And India is the only country where Iran has spoken. It's awfully that the primeister is speaking it here and there. India is the only platform place where everyone is speaking. So the rumor...

I have an interesting anecdote on this, you know, we were conducting Chanika defense dialogue last year, not this year, last year, and we were discussing Russia, Ukraine war, and guess whom all I had as part of the panel. A brigadier from the US, Army War College, a brigadier from Russia, and a and a brigadier from Israel. All 3 together, no offsetting. They were all sitting together and having a good power with each other.

So, you know, that is the advantage which India has, I suppose. Yeah, yeah. And not only that, the 3rd thing was during the Milan 26, just before the war, right? Is that fleet review?

The Iranian deputy chief was here. Yeah, right? And the US chap was also here. So, please remember all of you.

India has a huge role to play in this whole game. What they have to remember, it is not a failure. That is the start of the negotiation. You exchange your views, 15 points, 14 points, 15 points, the Americans have given 5 points they have given.

Now it commences and now it will be taken forward. Even as the pounding is on. Question for General Rajiv, Akash Tadani wants to know, we live in interesting times with US aggression in the Persian Gulf region. We would like to have a shortage of LPG.

The Americans are putting the Chinese in their place, which is go to the 2nd part, please. Advantage Bharat in the present and future. On the flip side, the Iranians are permitting free passage across Strait of Ormos to Barat. Russia and China.

Options are complex, your views. Okay, 1st thing, yes, the LPG may be a little for some time, but the LPG has started coming from your US, the 1st ship has docked. 3 of our LPG ships have come, uh, the 3 LP. I think out of the 6 which are coming through the streets of foremost, 3 more are LPG.

So you've started getting your LPG ship. So the American 1st shipper dog. The LPGs will start coming. So it's just a question of one or 2 weeks and all they had said is instead of 21 days for domestic is 25 Initially they had said no to commercial, they'll go shift more here.

They have said, okay, 50% you will be given. Now they have come out and asked everybody wherever they are feasible where they are going to provide the pipe natural gas. Uh, they've said the societies don't have a choice now. They have to shift to pipe national gas and I for one full hands up for pipe national gas.

So it's 13rd the price. What's what's there to argue? Is that it right on the price? It's 13rd the price.

I am for full. I lived in Delhi there in Varka. We had piped natural gas. Here coming and asking for cylinder and going for IVR and cylinder.

There you are 247, 365 days you have gas fire. You don't have to go around asking for cylinder or anything and 13rd the cost. As far as Bharat, Russia, and China, China. They're permitting the ships to come through, but he has now got to pay at market rates.

What he was able to get a deep concession is not getting. That is his disadvantage. And how many ships are going on, very many. In fact, our one or 2 newspapers and our media houses have jumped the gun.

And they said it, the 5 they had added Iraq and Pakistan, where I objected and sent to India today. I'm sorry. Pakistan ship was stopped yesterday. How do you say Pakistan is free passage?

Now it has been corrected. Spain. India, Russia, China, Iraq, and Spain. These are the Spain has become more or less China's...

Yeah, these are the five. The impact on China, you got to understand more because what is happening with the loss of heel LNGs, you're not getting helium. And helium is needed for cooling the chips when you are etching the circuit. Because it's very pure, it doesn't leave.

The tiny etchings that you do doesn't leave any impurities. There are reports which are coming out of China, Huawei, BYD and CATL are throwing up their hands. They're not getting chips. Because helium is not okay.

And that is the reason why India wants to get more and more LNG. In fact, we have doubled your intake. As what you did last year, in these 3 months, you have doubled your intake of LNG from Argentina. This is for General Shankar.

Christine Aura wants to know, even if US occupies all these islands. How will US replan is there ammunition and missiles in that narrow street? By boat. Nothing very great in it.

Come from south of the Persian Gulf. South on the Persian Gulf. Not from the Gulf of Oman. Not from Gulf of Oman and all.

South. No, it's not a big deal. Look, if the Iranians can exist, their focus, so can this, that's, that's in the center of the hormone strait, no? As simple as that.

And in fact, the southern 2 islands, the Siri and your... Agumosa. Agumosa? The lower tomb island, lower tomb.

Actually, there is a territorial dispute between Iran and UA on that. Right. It's not very far. Next one.

This is for General Rajiv. What about Israeli troops? They can be mobilized much faster, isn't it? They are looking after Gaza and Lebanon.

Where do they have the strength to get anything else? They have they're stretched. They can only do the way bombing and... They are looking at Gaza.

They're looking at Lebanon. They've already gone into South Lebanon. Lithani River, all the bridges connecting Lebanon to this side of Lithani River, all of them have been blown up. Right now, there is no possible movement unless Israel authorizes it.

I don't think they have built any pontoons, right, sir? No, no, no, nothing, nothing. Nothing. And between the Litani and there is a river just north of it by A, I think Arani or Arachi something.

They want the buffer zone there. There. It used to be that it was Litani to the border of uses, right? Now they have gone ahead of Lithani and said, it is just south of Beirut.

Actually, that river is just south of Beru. And they're saying, no, between these 2 rivers and the buffer zone and they don't want any Hezbollah here, they are okay with Lebanese people staying here, but no Hezbollah here. Next question for General Shankar. Malaysia has started with Iran.

What is their strategy? They side with Turkey and they also side with Iran? Yeah, don't cook, yeah, there's no logic. Just ignore them.

They're nothing. They're up a gum tree at the moment. nothing. They have their own thing also, but they also get from the house.

Explorer 0006. This is for you, General Raji. Thank you so much. General Rajiv, General Ravi.

Okay, sir, I'll ask you this question. Next one I go to General Raji. Then look, Raviji, we start your daily show by 9.30 p.

m. EST. My hubby is sleeping too late watching your show, sir. 930 p.

m. 9.30 p.m.

EST is what how does it correspond to Pacific standard time or India? Explorer is from Canada. Canada. Now it is.

Eastern standard time is your Washington. US is the time. not ISD. You deduct one.

5 hours. 8 AM IST. 8 AM in the morning, and when you get into winter timing, it'll get 2.5 hours, that is 7 AM.

Look, madam, let me answer this. No, no, let me answer. You should... You can watch it later.

No, no, madam, what I can't do, you know, I can't start a show before 9 o'clock in the morning. Look, I do this at 9 in the morning. I can't start it at 8 o'clock. I'll tell you why because it's between, you know, 6 to 8 that I read newspapers, yeah, all that and get inputs and by the time I'm ready, it's only 9 o'clock.

I can't do it before that. You know, it's physically not possible. Please remember your husband. That's why I like it.

I compensate with you. And what I would suggest is, you know, you give me an email and we'll talk and we'll get around. I really this thing. And please remember I'm also 70 year old guy.

70 year young guy. Sir, you're young. Okay. And I have to, I mean, I have to wake up at about 5 o'clock in the morning and do everything and all that and then so that's how it is.

It takes time before I come and speak. But we'll talk of it. I really, I mean, I'll reach out to you. Just give me a email.

9 AM show is a given viewers. 9 AM show is a given. It'll air on gunner shot and P gurus. In the evening, you are getting what happened during the daytime, you are covering that and General Shankar and I have committed that we are going to see this thing through till the end of this war.

This is where the action is because this is going to impact all our lives. Next question to General Rajiv. So back to back, 2 questions will be coming to you, sir. 1st one, Saurabh Sabarwal, thank you so much.

Kutki Pe, uh, Kutki Pe, uh, Ghamanditna, Thi, Ghusja, Warmi, Iran, US, Sikh, Khud, Uche, chaacha, batole, Husto, Boeho, ye, bataw, nikolo. Don't worry, more nikolai, like I said, who blinks 1st and at the moment, everything is pointing towards Iran that Iran is likely to blink 1st. See, there are 2 things, what you have to be very clear. Like I told in many places.

What is the Political aim of both Iran and as far as it is, Israel is concerned is very clear. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they have said the 1st country they're going to nuke is Israel. So as far as Israel is concerned, taking out the nukes and throwing out this regime. It's an existential threat for Israel.

As far as the hardline regime of Iran is concerned. If they get overthrown, the people will burn them to death. So it's an existential threat to them. Now you can question what was troubles him.

I need that to you today. No, Trump is very clear. Look, let me clarify that. I, and I'll, you can hold it to me.

You know, Trump's aim is to get hold of the oil. control the oil, control the gulf, and get something like the Iraq model, Venezuela model, and all that. In fact, today in the morning, I showed the Iraq model. What is the Iraq model of controlling their money and their finances, right?

Or they can do the Russian model, what he's trying with Russia. So there are 34 models which Trump has, on which he wants to handle this. And as far as who's to rule Iran and all, he will leave it to that guy, then he'll take the Venezuela model. Bus, Osco, but they'll Chayos, and nukes have to come out.

Nukes have to come out is like what general Rajiv Nagar said, the Israel's thing. But a simple. Yeah. I think you are absolutely right.

The goals are 2 and they are very clear. That's right. Yeah. Next question also to Regeneral Raji.

Thank you, Vinay. Will this what that resulted in the attack on gas and oil plants, weaken Arab countries further, weaken terror funding globally, including water? See, the longer this war lost, the Gulf countries, economies are going to take a hit. There's no food.

Please remember that most 80% of the food is imported via the streets of foremost. And goes from India. That goes from India. from India.

So now that is getting critical for them. So yes, and quite a lot of terror funding comes from the private players within the Gulf. So yes, it will weaken terror funding. Globally, Utani, I'm more interested in terror funding within my country should reduce.

But Keto, Hoga, Apna, Kamonachi. General Ravi, this is Janal Shanka, this is for you, sir. Freshly brewed. Thank you so much.

Had Trump conducted the strategic talks through New Delhi, had the scenario been different. You classify Park as a threat and share bed with it, logic. Look, we are not sharing bed with them. As simple as that.

Okay. No, no, no, he's talking about a USS declared Pakistan, that's logical. Look, doing this in Pakistan is logical. Doing this is Pakistan is logical from the Iranian point of view.

One. Number two, you see, India as a mediator, India will be a mediator. It will not be a go-between or a broker. India will be a mediator.

In the mediation, India will put some Canunkaida on Trump also on US also. That is why all these chats have come to India to convince India, okay, please be on our side. And we have spoken to Iran and Iran also has come and said, please be in our side. Both want you.

They want us to mediate. We are not in in it. Pakistan is a go between. Each follow things that I can twist the Pakistan's tale to talk my language.

Both have a leverage in Pakistan. Pakistan is very happy. You know, he will go this side and that's it and make money from both the typical broker. Garka broker.

That is why EM said, no, India is not a dalal. Dalal. Yeah, Dalali, Karega. Yesterday morning, my podcast, which I did, what was it caption?

The caption on war piece and the horror of Islamabad? Horror. Okay. I had to take that word off and put it as Lady of Islamabad because Google, you know, YouTube had problems for that.

So the point is, please understand. I would have recommended you put it as Hiramundi. They wouldn't have the practice. Yeah, next time.

No, with time, eh? And then next time I will, next time I'm coming over. Rajiv, next question to you, sir. Uh, Iran thanking India for grant some Kashmir retracting under park pressure and retracting again thereafter.

Why isn't MEA coming out hard on it? Didn't we come hard on it for them to retract again from pop pressure? So it happens. These are small issues.

You shouldn't get worried about it. Thank you once again. Sharad Agawal, thank you, and let's go to the next one. Uh, this is for you, sir.

popular uprising supported by the armed, which is scheduled in the last phase of the war. I don't think it will come to that. My popular uprising and all won't happen. Whatever will happen in Iran will let it happen by natural decree.

It'll happen. We'll see what happens. You need to understand something about Iran. IRGC has constructed parallel structures.

There's an IRGC Navy. There's an IRGC army. There's an IRGC rocket Ford. There's an IRGC, um, uh, you know, every everything you think of, they have their own secret service also, much more dreaded than the uh, Iranian country's secret service.

So it's not an easy situation right now. So you just have to, I said, I used to think, why are these guys taking on all this? Like, I said, emergency existential threat. Yes, yes.

An existential threat for them. Not very easy viewers. What has happened? General Shankar, this is for you.

Sorry, General Raji, this is for you, sir. Will the open consortium likely to break after this warrants? Why should it break? don't think so.

Next one to general Shankar. Good evening, sirs. I heard that the US troops are trying to take over Iran by taking over the Iranian Parliament and Airport. Is this possible at all?

Take fake news. Fake. Look, I, all those who are watching pig gurus, please, I have a very serious message to say. All those who are watching pea gurus and gunner shot.

I'd like to put this across because we are we interchange our videos, we come on each of this channel, everything. We don't believe in giving fake news. And I would caution everyone, there are a lot of fake news in the air. Everyone who can put on a account he puts what he wants.

Okay. Whereas we don't do that. We, that's why make it a point to show slides. Every time I talk, there's a slide next to me.

Right? I like give references from the slide. Who's speaking what? And as far as possible, I take government sources, because government handles, because that's official news.

And from that, you derive things. I mean, you know, at our age, we know how to derive the fake from the unfake. What is the strategy, everything from the official news which comes? And you take reputed, you know, media.

Like New York Times, take Al Jazeera, both sides, Washington Post. SCMP. These 4 I've taken as a standard. You might have problems with New York Times for other reasons in Washington Post for other reasons.

That's a different story, but the headlines will tell you what is happening. You know, just the headline with that fellow projects will tell you what is happening. So you put all these together, you get a clear mosaic of what's happening. All over.

It's not only in the US side, but on the Iranian side and the rest of the world. We also have to understand what's happening in India. We also have to understand what's happening in China. Okay, for us, the long-term interest is China.

And today afternoon I did a show on that. And it took me one. 5 hours to finish that show because issues involved in China are so complex. And China is in a terrible mess.

Why do you think China is sitting out? If China gets into this, it's sunk. If China supports Iran, it is sunk. Okay, so please go up for authentic news.

That's what we are trying. All of us are trying to give you authentic news. Okay. All I will tell them is Iran is not Panama that you just landed in in Tuko, the country.

Look at the size. Next question, General Raji, this is for you, sir. What is the guarantee that closure of hormones trait becomes a perennial, unpredictable threat? Will Iran keep quiet despite US manage it to get it open now?

I think we have discussed the same thing what all America needs to do to get it done because now that America has walked down this path so much it has to do something and how it will be done. Jal Shankar gave you the phases also. Everything, I think we have answered this question. Um, General Shankar, uh, do you want to add to add to that previous question?

No, no, fine. He's fine. No, we have said that. Manof San wants to know.

This is for you, General Shankar. Why is Russia calling for Iran to enter talk with US? Shouldn't Russia have an opposite interest of keeping conflict going to reap higher oil prices? What's their angle?

Do they fear Iran nooks? No, no, no, nuke shukes and a lot of question. Look, Russia is playing a double game. It'll keep, you know, stoking the fire and it wants to get under the dollar economy.

It's very clear. Please remember, we've spoken many times that meeting in Anchorage between Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin.

It was not about what was happening then. It was about carving the future. This retryangulation of retryangulation of Russia, China, and USA is on the cards. And it's been on the cards for the past three, 4 months.

Russia has already told Tenga to China. China is in a bind. Okay, they don't have LA. Look, what general Rajiv said, no helium.

Without helium, what do you do cooling meiye? We have chips, chips are all potato chips after that. Okay? So they're in a huge problem and Russia is not going to make it easy for China.

Don't think Russia is going to take its pound of flesh from China. Right? And they want to get under the dollar economy. If he is well with Trump, he can keep selling oil to you at the current rates.

He can give you LNG everything. His economy will pick up. At some point of time is some good. Sir, if you ask me the pivot point in all this, Russia, China relationship was the day North Korea switched over to the Russian satellites.

That was a pivot. From there on, Russia has been able to, you know, stand up to China, I think. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. What I see the 33 nations coming together is US, Russia, and India.

Yeah. Uri. That's it because EU has nothing left. China has nothing left others will then gravitate around you.

Melbourne wants to know, this is for you, General Rajeev, I think. Do you think that some anti-American generals in the US are running automated accounts running disinformation to weaken presidents support a success? No, not really. They are coming on the TV channel.

Look, people can have their opinions, right? There's nothing wrong in that. My said ¢2 before I let you answer General Rajiv. This could also be a red herring.

Like, I'm sending troops, I'm sending troops because now we have clearly defined the 2 objectives. Uh, control of hormones straight and D-Nuke. Take out that thing, 60% uranium conclusively, take it physically out, keep it at a place where it is more secure. These are the 2 objectives of this war.

So having said that, do you think this could also be like a red herring where they have some other plan in mind? Russia? I mean, sorry, United States? You have to have your alternate contingency plans in place.

So it is very clear. They had almost got this through in Oman, but, uh, I don't think the Americans also trusted them. Now at this stage, Like, if the bombing goes on for 10, 15 days, how much of a pounding will Iran take? Like I said, the damage to it now is enormous.

Enormous. Unthinkable. I think Qatar also has a lot of problems now, moving forward. We'll come to that later.

Maybe in a few weeks time because there are some other things that are happening there. Uh, said, um, anything you'd like to add, Jal Shankar, that can be observation? Let's go to this one. This is for you, general Shankar.

Ganesh wants to know Modi need not volunteer to mediate. Why all 3 of them are our friends are not so good guys worth sticking our neck? All of them will make where they look like a bad guy. one of two.

What's the 2nd one please? Okay, I don't see it. Yes, yes. Yeah.

No, I don't think so. I don't know. No need for that, I think, yeah. No, no, I don't think.

Look, he doesn't need to volunteer to mediate. Already there, others are coming with to you, to me for, you know, consultation. Why should you get into this mediation business already? See, Prime Minister Modi has already spoken to everyone.

He's spoken to everyone. He's spoken to Benjamin Nathaniya, who has spoken to all the Gulf countries. He spoken to Pasekya. He's already spoken.

Everyone is now coming back. I mean, just think the vice president of America didn't go to Pakistan directly. He came to India. I probably went to Sasural and we, you know, stuck where to go or not, but that's we'll see.

Oh, yeah. So he's come. What are you talking? Why do you need to get into this mediation business?

You will mediate. You will be for reconstruction of this thing, you will be there. Once some arrangement comes for straight up foremost. India will be there.

Please remember, you see, there's something very important which is happening. I've been coming back to China coming back to China, coming back to China. China is nowhere here. In this entire story, China is nowhere here.

China gave a weak tweet yesterday. Oh, the statement, no, no, you know, you should go to peace, you should talk. What is China worried about? , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , from April, mid-April to mid-May, one month gone means one month their economy is going to suffer.

And that's what I put out today. You, I mean, I didn't talk. You hear Lee's real talk. took a little clip from her and put it in my thing.

What she says. There are a lot of problems there, so don't worry. We are in the picture. And we don't even know for sure and Chinese don't know for sure whether Trump will go in may or not.

or not. Yeah. There is a lot of problems, yeah. Freshly brewed.

Thank you so much. Excellent gentlemen of P guru. Cherish listening to your excellent strategic interpretations. ISR suits the tones between 3 good generals.

Thank you once again, freshly brewed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Denver Johnson. Why has Israel not used a ballistic missile arsenal?

We know they have the Jericho 12 and 3 new things that US is not allowing it, any reason why? General Rajiv. Why should they need to use it? When they have total domination of this guy.

I see, Iran, as IRGC, I would say, as a stated policy, didn't have any Air Force, so they went totally the missile and the drones. Correct. They have a tremendous air force there hitting the target. So what do you need there?

They're totally a domination over Iran. What do you need? Besides, when my aircraft can go and do that, then. Iran doesn't have that option.

Yeah. Christine Aura, thank you so much. This is for you, General Shankar. Why is Russia so wary of China?

Russia, not wary of China anymore. What are the days? Okay, it's now China is very about Russia. It's the other way around.

China is very about Russia. You know, I want to put something else about Russia, China, I think. You know, through history. I'm talking not this 100, 200 years through millionaire.

The biggest threat to the Chinese mainland, or to biggest threat to the Chinese empires, was from where the northern hordes. Yeah. The North China Plains. All, why, what is the orientation of the Great Wall of Channel?

There's no one single Great Wall of China. I hope you people know, there's about 7 walls built by different emperors and different dynasties at various points of time. All their orientation is to prevent people coming from the north. Their biggest threat always has been the North China plane.

vulnerability of the North China plane. Okay, by doing this, deal with Russia, China had got its North China plane threat removed. It's back secured, but now it's open again. Now it's open again.

They have a problem. Chinese have a problem. Don't have doubts about it. Next one, please.

Thank you so much, Jennifer Ruben, for becoming a YouTube member. Uh, Abhinay Singh, thank you so much. This is for you, General General Raji. IRDC goes away in future.

Should India be pitching Tata's parties for rebuilding Iran? Why not? No, no, no. Why not?

And there is plenty of time. Why only Tata Shapurji? Yeah, India will put. It is the biggest construction company, one of the biggest construction company, and you have so many other construction companies, they can go there.

But the issue is funding. Where does the funding come from? Oil. Yes.

Next question to general Shankar, do you think these potential land inventions are going to grain leverage for future negotiations or to get a strategic foothold in a traditional war? Negotiations? We said that traditional war is out of. Yeah, answer this question.

We answered this question. Yes. Next question, please. General Raji, won't GCC contribute boots on ground?

GCC also needs contests for the strait of hormuz. Oh, we keep her. The last time the Arabs ever fought successfully was under the British called Mr. Lawrence, so left Colonel Lawrence, that was the Lawrence of Arabia and 1st World War.

They did try against the Israelis and we know what happened. 67, 73. Anywhere. They want others to come, even when Iraq went into Puet.

Did the GCC join up together in throughout Iraq? No, they called for the whole Ford to come and fight for them. Even today's Saudi Arabia is not ready to put their people into the aircraft and other things. Why do you think he's asking 25,000 books from Pakistani?

So how is they can they contribute boots? Even if they say really, do you think Americans and Israelis will say yes? Next one, please. Last question.

This is for you, General Shankar. Harshwaran wants to know. Uh, sir, looks like uh, uh, looks like Trump initiated this campaign prematurely without building up adequate forces required for the operations. No, I think they went on a premise and for the premise in which they went, I thought, you know, they with the forces were adequate.

They thought that they will be able to do regime change. Somewhere things went wrong in their calculations. Maybe the Israelis led them on to say they will be in uprising and all that. Remember, there is a pre prequel to this.

The prequel is, in the 1st week of January, they upset the Apple card, their financial Apple card. And Iranians were on the street. Remember that? And that's what, you know, then the busage acted on them, nearly 14,000 Iranians were shot dead and all that, you know, all that story is there.

And that's when Trump said, don't worry, help is coming, right? And that's the buildup to this particular thing. So probably there was a feeling that, look, if we do something, people will rise up and that's why we take the leadership out, yeah, well, that didn't happen. You know, that was the thing and that's how the whole thing.

Now that they're stuck straight to a certain extent to a large extent, the US is stuck here. It's like a clock drain. They have to unclog it and, you know, do a lot of things for unclogging it. They will eventually do it because they are the greater power.

They got more sustainability. And as days go by, Iran will keep losing its sustainability because they know outside help. So such things happen in war. It's a matter of time.

It all now depends on the political will and fagacity within the US administration and US USA. Will the people of USA support Trump? Right? The forces will do, but will the politics of USA support Trump?

Those are the issues which we have to talk. I'm not too hereafter when we discuss, I'm not too think about what's happening militarily. The military progress will be incremental in nature, till such time, some boots are put on ground in for some manner, but largely the whole thing will be political in nature. Yeah, I want, in fact, I want Rajiv's, then I want Rajiv's view on this.

Yeah, yeah, you're used. Even no, no, even even FAD, you can also give your views. Okay, sir. Uh, the 1st shots that were fired were basically meant to take out the hierarchy.

It didn't happen. The regime change didn't happen. Then comes that you need to get your boots on ground. You need to pound.

So even if you go back to Gulf War one and Gulf War 2 and all, it was tremendous amount of pounding before the boots come in. So when you are pounding the boots build up, and by then you, uh, get a clarity that now, which contingency you need to play now when? And how you are going to do it. Because now that you are here.

That is how the US is going about it, and let's see how it pans out. Like I said, who blinks 1st and it is looking towards Iran. It's looking towards Iran, because the damage is enormous in Iran. Phenomenal.

Strategy your views. Sir, um, see, the where the talk stalled was when Iran refused to pull back on their ballistic missile development program, they were willing to give up their nukes, but they said no to ballistic missile program, and that's where the thing stalled, and that's why the decision to go in and take out the top leadership and so on and so forth. As for whether Trump initiated this prematurely or not, it is believed that that was the 1st time in many years that such a high level of generals were assembled under one roof. 49.

And and I think that's was like a Maukepechoka that Israel did and they said everything else we will pay them as we come. So this is how you are seeing it play out. These are not perfect wars. Nobody's going to win just like that.

It's going to take some time. US is also going to suffer some pain in my opinion. Basic issue. Yeah, Shankar will also agree with me.

Being soldiers, low plan survives the 1st contact. First round. What plan survives the 1st country? You may be one of the most brilliant generals going around.

You name me anything. Whether the German, uh, Mannstein, Goodarian, Romel, Pattern, no plan survives for the 1st contract. You got to think and how what contingencies and how to go about doing it. And set the stage for those contingencies.

That's how it goes. You know, I must tell you a physical thing. The 1st round, when you hear, irrespective when you hear it, churn your stummy. Anyone who says he doesn't, he's a he's a liar.

Or dur, involuntary, taken involuntary. The 2nd thing is the 1st casualty you face. Gets trepidation in your head. At the end of the day, the army general's captain's major, left hand, lieutenant colonels, brigadiers, all in between, and sober there, everyone.

We are in the business of lives. It's not easy. It's nice to talk here, show pictures, yo. You know, it's very difficult.

It's very difficult. Because the orders that you give, and even as a company commander when you are going, and orders you are giving. You are sending yourself and the men to death. To face death.

And you really don't know how many are going to survive. You don't know whether you will going to survive as a kid. You also will survive. Last one.

Pristine Aura, thank you again. Bricks writers are attacking India, saying we betrayed. Oh, that's Chinese narrative. They'll pay all the money to put you down, knowing that he's getting a thrashing and India is rising.

There have been now Chinese people saying talking about the golden rise of India and decline of China. So it's obvious their narratives will come everywhere. Thank you once again, gentlemen, what a session today was, one hour and +37 minutes, but every minute worth its weight in gold. Look out our next 3 good general session.

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